Dane Wiggington of GeoengineeringWatch; Jim Fetzer on Alfred Webre's betrayal


Mon.  10/1/12, 3-5 pm Central, American Freedom Radio  (archived here.)
 












First hour: Dane Wiggington from GeoengineeringWatch.org picks up where Michael Murphy left off two weeks ago. Why in the world ARE they Spraying?  Tune in and find out!

And don't miss Dane's excellent summary/intro to the geoengineering/chemtrails issue just published at Nature Bats Last.
Plesiosaur frolicking in the martian oceans after devouring Andrew Basiago.  IF ONLY.

Second hour: Jim Fetzer comes on for a debriefing on the controlled demolition of the Vancouver 9/11 Hearings by Alfred Webre, one of the worst scoundrels ever to cognitively infiltrate the 9/11 truth movement.

When Jim Fetzer and Joshua Blakeney were looking for a judge for the Vancouver 9/11 Hearings last winter, they offered the job to Alfred Webre, who served as judge at the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunals last year. Then we discovered that Webre had apparently gone off the deep end: He was endorsing and distributing stories told by Andrew Basiago, who claims to be a participant in a secret CIA time travel program. Basiago, hilariously, imagines that as a child, he was sent by the CIA in a time machine to Gettysburg, where he had his photo taken at the site of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address just minutes after it was delivered. Even more hilariously, Basiago claims to have teleported "beam-me-up-Scotty style" to Mars alongside Barack Obama, where the two of them barely escaped being devoured by carnivorous martian dinosaurs. (Yes, Webre claims to actually believe this stuff!)

I strongly advised Jim and Joshua to dump Webre. Being fair-minded to a fault, Jim contacted Webre and was assured that no, Webre would certainly never contaminate the Vancouver 9/11 Hearings by linking them in any way with his "exotic" teleportation, time travel, and UFO material. On that condition, Jim (ill-advisedly, in my view) allowed Webre to serve as a judge in Vancouver.

After the final day of the Vancouver 9/11 Hearings, Webre had dinner with author-journalist Barbara Honegger and retired psychologist Ernst Rodin. At this dinner, in the presence of both witnesses, Webre announced that he intended to find a way around (i.e., break) the promise he had made to Jim Fetzer, and include Andrew Basiago's ludicrous claims in the "indictments" issued by the Vancouver 9/11 Hearings!

Basiago claims that CIA time travelers learned that 9/11 was going to happen almost 30 years in advance, and decided to let it happen because they didn't believe in messing with the future. Even worse: In one version, the time travelers visited two different timelines - one in which 9/11 didn't happen and the earth was destroyed by rogue planet Niburu, and another in which 9/11 did happen and the earth was saved. So naturally, our heroic leaders decided to do the right thing and save the planet by letting/making 9/11 happen. (Wow! A cosmic alibi! Zelikow and Sunstein must have been smoking PCP when they came up with that one.)

Barbara Honegger contacted me in August about the Webre problem, and I passed her concerns on to Jim Fetzer. As I understand it, Jim checked in with Webre and got the impression that Webre was going to honor his promise, and include only Vancouver 9/11 Hearings participants' material in his indictments. (Basiago, needless to say, was not a participant - I assume he was too busy dodging man-eating martian dinosaurs.)

Three weeks ago, during the 11th anniversary 9/11 events in New York City, Barbara contacted me again, pointing out that Webre had indicated that he WAS going to include Basiago in the Vancouver indictments. Barbara and I contacted Jim Fetzer, who finally seemed to grasp the seriousness of the problem. Jim asked Webre about Webre's apparent intentions of betraying his promise. Webre responded in long, evasive, weaselly diatribes that made it clear that yes, Alfred Webre was a liar and a scumbag who was going to break his sacred word not to bring Basiago-type stuff into the Vancouver Hearings and indictments.

By endorsing Basiago's tall tales, and betraying his promises, Webre has destroyed every last shred of credibility he ever enjoyed in both the UFO and 9/11 fields. He has made a prima facie case, through his own actions, that he is a cognitive infiltrator.

After discussing this bizarre series of events with people who know something about UFOs and cognitive infiltration, I am told that Webre was already a suspected cognitive infiltrator even before he went off on his Basiago tangent. Webre is one of those self-styled "UFO experts" who take the position that the ETs, the "kindly space brothers," are entirely benign; their only intention is to bring us earthlings into the inter-galactic Federation ruled by an interstellar version of international law. This polyanna-ish view simply does not fit the facts of the UFO phenomenon, as those facts have been established by such competent investigators as Jacques Vallée, John Keel, David Jacobs, and others. But Webre has no interest in actual facts; his writing - most notably in his book Exopolitics - is all on such a high level of abstraction that it is mostly meaningless. The man is, and has always been, blowing smoke. Now he's trying to damage the 9/11 truth movement by bringing Basiago's lunatic hallucinations into it. That's what I call blowing toxic smoke.

Alfred, kindly teleport yourself back to Betelgeuse...and tell Basiago we'd all be better off if he'd died at Gettysburg, or been devoured by a man-eating martian dinosaur.

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Obama and Basiago, just before the plesiosaur attack

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